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Design Matters with Debbie Millman is a thought-provoking internet podcast, which profiles industry-leading graphic designers, change agents, artists, writers and educators.
September 28th, 2015
Episode 145 of 193 episodes
Debbie talks to designerClement Mok about the early days of Apple computer, the heady days of the software bubble, and the joys of working for Steve Jobs.
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