Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin

My experiments in the pursuit of happiness and good habits


Agree, Disagree? Memories Live Longer Than Dreams.

August 6th, 2015

Episode 106 of 372 episodes

Interview: James Wallman. I’ve long been fascinated by the relationships between people and possessions. It’s a complicated, rich, emotionally-fraught bond. In the chapter on the Strategy of Distinctions in my book Better Than Before, for instance, I discuss the difference between over-buyers and under-buyers, and abundance-lovers and simplicity-lovers, and how those differences affect habits. On this fascinating subject, James Wallman has a new book, Stuffocation: Why We’ve Had Enough of Stuff and Need Experience More than Ever, I was very interested to hear what James had to say about habits, possessions, happiness, and human nature. Gretchen: What’s a simple habit that consistently makes you happier? James: In a note my Granddad, Jack, gave me on the day he died, he wrote that “Memories live longer than dreams.” As you can imagine, I’ve thought about that note a lot since then. I now believe he meant that what matters in life isn’t material things but experiences. So I have an ingrained habit to spend as little (money, time, energy) as possible on stuff, and as much as possible on experiences. When I come to any decision, I ask myself: will this, at the least, ...