Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin

My experiments in the pursuit of happiness and good habits


Podcast 44: Drew Barrymore Gets Personal. And Happier.

December 23rd, 2015

Episode 186 of 371 episodes

It’s time for the next installment of “Happier with Gretchen Rubin.” Update: The paperback of Better Than Before just hit the shelves. You can see me talk about it in this short video. If you’ve ever wanted to change a habit, all is revealed. Try This at Home: Have an end-of-the-year ritual. Let us know your ideas. We’re looking for good suggestions. Interview: Drew Barrymore. Yowza! It was so much fun to meet her. Her new book is Wildflower. What a fascinating conversation. As we discuss, Drew Barrymore’s sister-in-law is writer Jill Kargman, who created and stars in the TV show Odd Mom Out. One of many highlights — Drew’s point about maternal instincts, when she wondered, “When these maternal instincts kick in, are they going to be overarching, like a rainbow that comes across me, or more like Skittles on the floor?” Rainbow or Skittles — a great metaphor for a complex point. In our discussion of Drew’s personal symbol of “flower,” I couldn’t resist mentioning my spiritual master, St. Therese, who describes herself as a “little flower” in her memoir, The Story of a Soul. Note ...